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## Rate My Team

### My planned team for Red (might trade to silver if I actually get them) - Page 1

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#### My planned team for Red (might trade to silver if I actually get them)

Posted by: Glitchby
Date: 2007-11-27 22:16:29
Pinsir
TwinNeedle (WOOH! Pinsir with STAB!)
Swords Dance
(None, as of yet)
(None, as of yet)
Electrode
(I may just use 007's Electrode set up, or use this)
Thunderbolt
Explosion
Recover (or something else)
(None, as of yet)
Dragonite
Earthquake
Minimize
(None, as of yet)
(None, as of yet
(No Pokemon as of yet)
(No Pokemon as of yet)
(No Pokemon as of yet)
Pokemon, and move ideas would be appreciated. (Note: This will be done with the Q glitch.)

#### Re: My planned team for Red (might trade to silver if I actually get them)

Posted by: Bent`
Date: 2007-11-27 22:44:59
[21:28] > you won't want earthquake on chansey, because of its low attack
[21:28] > try seismic toss instead
[21:29] <Kannon> item duplication though
[21:29] > well
[21:29] > seismic toss on chansey will consistently do 100 damage
[21:29] <Kannon> I'll duplicate Irons (I think that raises attack)
[21:29] <Kannon> that's not the point
[21:29] > earthquake will generally do less, because her attack is incredibly low
[21:30] <Kannon> I'm doing that to see if I could defeat 007's Electrode
[21:30] <Kannon> :/
[21:30] > ah
The damage formula for Red is this:
((2A/5+2)*B*C)/D)/50)+2)*X)*Y/10)*Z)/255
A = attacker's Level
B = attacker's Attack or Special
C = attack Power
D = defender's Defense or Special
X = same-Type attack bonus (1 or 1.5)
Y = Type modifiers (40, 20, 10, 5, 2.5, or 0)
Z = a random number between 217 and 255
Assuming L100 and max stats for both Pokemon, Earthquake will do at minimum 68 damage and at most 80 against an Electrode. You'd still be best off with Seismic Toss.

#### Re: My planned team for Red (might trade to silver if I actually get them)

Posted by: 007
Date: 2007-11-28 21:09:48

> Pinsir
> TwinNeedle (WOOH! Pinsir with STAB!)
> Swords Dance
> (None, as of yet)
> (None, as of yet)

Hell yes. By my math a triple Swords Dance into Twinneedle will bend a Mewtwo the f**k over in a one-hit kill. This is inspiring. I'd go Substitute/Softboiled for the other two if I were you (Softboiled opposed to Recover just because you can throw three TMs on a Mew instead of rinsing it through something else). Hell, I might.
Edit: done. Yep, he's a psychic butcher.

> Electrode
> (I may just use 007's Electrode set up, or use this)
> Thunderbolt
> Explosion
> Recover (or something else)
> (None, as of yet)

Meh.

> Chansey
> Earthquake (for the sole purpose of seeing if I can beat 007's Electrode with it)
> Minimize
> (None, as of yet)
> (None, as of yet
> (No Pokemon as of yet)
> (No Pokemon as of yet)
> (No Pokemon as of yet)
> Pokemon, and move ideas would be appreciated. (Note: This will be done with the Q glitch.)

If you must bend me over with Earthquake, I recommend Dragonite. Evolutionary stabilization is easier anyway, and it'll dish out a range of 233 to 274 damage with an optimized Power gene, Defense making up for what you lose in HP from Chansey. Unless we're not playing by the Sleep Clause I just learned about, in which case you're just f**ked anyway.

> [21:28] > you won't want earthquake on chansey, because of its low attack
> [21:28] > try seismic toss instead
> [21:29] <Kannon> item duplication though
> [21:29] > well
> [21:29] > seismic toss on chansey will consistently do 100 damage
> [21:29] <Kannon> I'll duplicate Irons (I think that raises attack)
> [21:29] <Kannon> that's not the point
> [21:29] > earthquake will generally do less, because her attack is incredibly low
> [21:30] <Kannon> I'm doing that to see if I could defeat 007's Electrode
> [21:30] <Kannon> :/
> [21:30] > ah
> The damage formula for Red is this:
> ((2A/5+2)*B*C)/D)/50)+2)*X)*Y/10)*Z)/255
> A = attacker's Level
> B = attacker's Attack or Special
> C = attack Power
> D = defender's Defense or Special
> X = same-Type attack bonus (1 or 1.5)
> Y = Type modifiers (40, 20, 10, 5, 2.5, or 0)
> Z = a random number between 217 and 255
> Assuming L100 and max stats for both Pokemon, Earthquake will do at minimum 68 damage and at most 80 against an Electrode. You'd still be best off with Seismic Toss.

Actual Defense is 228, but your point stands.

#### Re: My planned team for Red (might trade to silver if I actually get them)

Posted by: Rbennett2336
Date: 2007-12-19 09:49:24
So really, your basically basing your your team off of weaknesses?
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