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## Debate Wars

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#### Re: Try this on for size...

Posted by: Izwzyzx
Date: 2006-06-20 18:58:58

> where did the file go?

It was taking up my foobar space.

#### Re: Try this on for size...

Posted by: xparasite9
Date: 2006-06-28 20:05:59
zip it and send it to me via email.

#### Re: Try this on for size...

Posted by: Izwzyzx
Date: 2006-06-29 00:16:35
You can see it here:
http://riki-oh.textamerica.com/?r=4115891

#### Re: Try this on for size...

Posted by: white dragon bionut
Date: 2006-06-30 07:53:06

> > > And white dragon bionut: OF COURSE IT DiD NOT WORK THE SAME AS WINDOZE!!!!! THAT IS MY POINT!!! I TOOK A LITTLE WHILE GETTING USED TO IT TOO! I felt the same way you do now. Jus give it a week or two.
> > > You'll find the interface friendlier.

> > ni i don't mean didn't work the same as windows. it just didn't work. every time i tried to open a program the computer rebooted.

> Just how long ago was this?

now… about 6-7 months ago.

#### Re: Try this on for size...

Posted by: zach the glitch buster
Date: 2006-07-07 15:27:20
this post is for the stupid people that need the mac fact's spelled out in front of them.
this link should help http://www.apple.com/getamac/ (P.S. look at everying on the page videos too)
you have any complantents of questions post them Ill counter them
oh and one thing no matter what you say about the mac it kicks ass on the music plain.

#### Re: Try this on for size...

Posted by: PokemonPichu
Date: 2006-07-07 16:55:04
I find Windows XP buggy. But it's better than Mac and Linux, because Mac does randomly freeze and it's hard to set up internet on Linux.

#### Re: Try this on for size...

Posted by: Abwayax
Date: 2006-07-07 21:21:24

> I find Windows XP buggy. But it's better than Mac and Linux, because Mac does randomly freeze and it's hard to set up internet on Linux.

Typically, it's hard to set up Linux itself unless you're a computer wizard. It's at least harder to set up than Windows, of course, but Windows is marketed towards the vast majority of computer users, who'll probably go "WTF YOU DELETED TEH INTERNETS" if you remove the IE shortcut on the desktop.

#### Re: Try this on for size...

Posted by: Izwzyzx
Date: 2006-07-07 22:07:11

> this post is for the stupid people that need the mac fact's spelled out in front of them.
> this link should help http://www.apple.com/getamac/ (P.S. look at everying on the page videos too)
> you have any complantents of questions post them Ill counter them
> oh and one thing no matter what you say about the mac it kicks ass on the music plain.

Ah, yes, Apple's "facts".
1.) All of Apple's "Hi I'm a Mac" commectials are bullshit and anyone who can use an actual computer should be able to see that.
2.) "It just works"? Hunter Cressal seems to have found many instances where the Mac is just as bad as a Mac-fan's description of Windows. Again, I direct your attention here, #1 and 2.
3.) "By the end of 2005, there were 114,000 known viruses for PCs. In March 2006 alone, there were 850 new threats detected against Windows. Zero for Mac."
That's called "security through obscurity", it has nothing to do with Apple's programming. Why should a virus writer waste time coding for Mac when it's barely used anyway? If you want that kind of protection, get a PC and use FreeGEM DOS GUI, or better yet, just use DOS.
4.) "widgets" are the future? Sure they are… not really. :-\
5.) INTEL chips! Because the original Apple-based hardware wasn't good enough!
6.) There's way too much stuff on there that says the exact same thing. "omg Mac creates music/blogs/photos/etc"
All of which can be done on Windows.
7.) Mac includes software. What a concept. I'm sure that's never been done before.
8.) More expensive! Oh wait, that's not a "reason to switch"…
Now then, if I'm reading this correctly, the cheapest Mac, this Mac Mini, is 599 US dollars. 599 US dollars. 599 US dollars. 599 US dollars. And it doesn't even include a monitor or anything! AND you don't get to attack a Mac's weak point for MASSIVE DAMAGE!
There are no good reasons to switch.

#### Re: Try this on for size...

Posted by: Abwayax
Date: 2006-07-07 23:22:47
hmm…

> How long does it take to post a photo or video to your blog on a PC? On a Mac, you can shoot a picture or a movie with the built-in camera, then post it on the web in a few clicks. Pontificate, preachify, and publish. The hardest part is coming up with something to say.

1. A built-in camera? That's kinda nice. Y'know, if I didn't have a camera already. Which I do.
2. Is "preachify" a real word?
Edit: Apparently it is. It's just preaching on steroids. Like how the Mozilla group tries to persuade users to switch to Firefox because Bill Gates is Satan or summat.

#### Re: Try this on for size...

Posted by: Izwzyzx
Date: 2006-07-08 09:44:02

> Like how the Mozilla group tries to persuade users to switch to Firefox because Bill Gates is Satan or summat.

Because we all know how much Satan likes to vaccinate children in Africa.

#### Re: Try this on for size...

Posted by: zach the glitch buster
Date: 2006-07-08 19:32:16

> > this post is for the stupid people that need the mac fact's spelled out in front of them.
> > this link should help http://www.apple.com/getamac/ (P.S. look at everying on the page videos too)
> > you have any complantents of questions post them Ill counter them
> > oh and one thing no matter what you say about the mac it kicks ass on the music plain.

> > > 1.) All of Apple's "Hi I'm a Mac" commectials are bulls**t and anyone who can use an actual computer should be able to see that.

> > All of the mac adds have valed points. (I know this becouse I use Windows XP and Mac O.S. 10.4)

> > > 2.) "It just works"? Hunter Cressal seems to have found many instances where the Mac is just as bad as a Mac-fan's description of Windows. Again, I direct your attention here, #1 and 2.

> > the "It just works" thing is a cleaver add campain. and to make a valed point you need to gather info from both sides not just some "Hunter Cressal"

> > > 3.) "By the end of 2005, there were 114,000 known viruses for PCs. In March 2006 alone, there were 850 new threats detected against Windows. Zero for Mac."
> > > That's called "security through obscurity", it has nothing to do with Apple's programming. Why should a virus writer waste time coding for Mac when it's barely used anyway? If you want that kind of protection, get a PC and use FreeGEM DOS GUI, or better yet, just use DOS.

> > Um yes it is becouse of the programing. For proof the most secure opperating system ever was Mac O.S. 9.2 no firewalls or anything and no hacker could hack it. the word has spread to not even to try.

> > > 4.) "widgets" are the future? Sure they are… not really. :-\

> > Good point just an add campain.

> > > 5.) INTEL chips! Because the original Apple-based hardware wasn't good enough!

> > Ha Ha good joke. The reason the Intel Chip was put in was It was chepper. and so mac could alow P.C. programs to work on the Mac

> > > 6.) There's way too much stuff on there that says the exact same thing. "omg Mac creates music/blogs/photos/etc"
> > > All of which can be done on Windows.

> > Well its true that the P.C. can do all that stuff. Its just that the Mac comes with the programes bulit in and the Mac does all these things better.

> > > 7.) Mac includes software. What a concept. I'm sure that's never been done before.

> > Its not that Mac was the first one to include software on the coumputer. Its just that they the first to include GOOD software on the computer.

> > > 8.) More expensive! Oh wait, that's not a "reason to switch"…
> > > Now then, if I'm reading this correctly, the cheapest Mac, this Mac Mini, is 599 US dollars. 599 US dollars. 599 US dollars. 599 US dollars. And it doesn't even include a monitor or anything! AND you don't get to attack a Mac's weak point for MASSIVE DAMAGE!

> > In truth there price range is simmler. Mac it more expensive I will give you that but most P.C. coumputers LOOK like they cost less but when you add up the extra stuff you need to bye (Like software and other objects) Its not a thousand doller differnce then a Mac. For Mac price what you see is what you get no strings atached. Also Mac's are chepper if you know were to look (like here http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/0.RSLID?mco=2BD21403&nclm=SpecialDeals)

> > > There are no good reasons to switch.

> > look at the facts and rethink this comment.
> > Oh and one last thing. I typed this post on a P.C. and I use that and a Mac offen.
> > Now post your complaints and let me counter them again 8)

#### Re: Try this on for size...

Posted by: Izwzyzx
Date: 2006-07-08 20:16:03
Any particular reason you ended up inside quotes like that?
1.) You can't even spell "valid". Apple's commercials are overexaggerated and, like I said last time, anyone who can use an actual computer should be able to see that. You are obviously not the kind of person I was talking about.
2.) To make a "valed" point, you should understand what the other person is saying before you try to counter them.
3.) You use the word "proof" there, yet you do not prove your point in any way. I don't think even Apple would make up a "fact" as crappy as the one you're trying to pass off right there.
4.) Nothing to comment on here, moving on…
5.) It's no joke. Yes, Apple wants PC programs because nobody bothers programming for an operating system that few people use.
6.) Let me say this in a way you could comprehend: "betar iz only ur opinyun &it dus not help u en u try to kountr pepols agrumens" If I want all that junk, I'll download it myself, rather than have it wasts space on the hard drive, thank you very much.
7.) "good" is like "better", and for "better", see #6.
8.) Really? Because I haven't spent any extra money at all on my laptop. And guess what? It was cheaper than most of those Macs, too! AND, get this, it came with a screen! *gasp*
You haven't countered anything. You haven't posted many "facts", either. Perhaps you should look up the word "fact", because you seem to use that word very loosely.
Guess what?
There are no good reasons to switch.
Now run along and get a spell-checker or something.

#### Re: Try this on for size...

Posted by: zach the glitch buster
Date: 2006-07-08 20:43:13
1) I can use coumputers very well thank you. (yes I can code)
2) I understand what you were saying. sue me if I was to wise (I mean that as sarcasm)
3) The charge is true believe me or not
4) Same
5) Mac programs there own software
6) I had a swelled head when I sayed that. (sarcasm) Will you ever forgive me? (sarcasm)
7) A lot of the programs that come built in with the Mac are better then the ones that come with the P.C. (Um so you know this is what my school thinks becouse I did a pole in my school a few months ago)
8) You can get good deals on a P.C. but its not to easy. (trust me I tryed)
Oh and If all you can point out is that my spelling is shit then got a life becouse I know that my spelling is bad and I would use a spellchecker if I HAD ONEon MY P.C.
so try me

#### Re: Try this on for size...

Posted by: Izwzyzx
Date: 2006-07-08 21:59:57
If you're not going to debate this, reading any more of this topic is just a waste of time.
See ya.

#### Re: Try this on for size...

Posted by: xparasite9
Date: 2006-07-08 22:07:11
You did a pole? I thought you were a guy!
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