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What exactly are those curved lines? - Page 1

What exactly are those curved lines?

Posted by: Torchickens
Date: 2015-01-21 18:04:30
I was playing around with "international dokokashira door glitch" in Yellow, specifically the 'remove terminator from party altogether' method.

After walking around, one of the tile corruptions was a tile with mainly white space, but it was surrounded by a curved line. If three of these tile blocks were rotated and put together it would form a large circle.
[img]http://i6.minus.com/ibhhxpMcls6266.png[/img]

I am curious if these are used.

Many of us have probably seen the lines like this on 3TrainerPoké's mini-sprite as well.
[img]http://i5.minus.com/if2E6eb1ukXMI.png[/img][img]http://i2.minus.com/iSZ1qr3bMa6kt.png[/img]

I think that invalid mini-sprite is in Red/Blue as well as Yellow if I recall correctly. I experimented with Red/Blue glitch mini-sprites after Sawakita documented the starting offset for normal Pokémon's mini-sprites, but 3TrainerPoké is the only English glitch Pokémon that uses it.

Re: What exactly are those curved lines?

Posted by: Spoink
Date: 2015-01-21 18:44:53
They're part of an attack animation (Substitute?)

Re: What exactly are those curved lines?

Posted by: Yuzihax
Date: 2015-01-21 18:45:10
The top one looks somewhat like the circle from the animation for Defense Curl.

[img]http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/4/42/Defense_Curl_I.png[/img]

Not sure if I'd guess the same for the mini-sprite, though.

Re: What exactly are those curved lines?

Posted by: Torchickens
Date: 2015-01-22 06:34:25
Ah, thanks Spoink, Yuzihax.

These lines have a thickness to them, though. Defense Curl does. However, there is a thick and less thick outline for each part of the circle.

I don't think Substitute is the same either, because the lines are thicker/the second and third frames form cloudy areas.

[img]http://i4.minus.com/ibqWPk5HpF3agt.png[/img]

It's also strange they appear on the overworld. The overworld tile in the first screenshot may not exist in battle.

Edit: Or maybe it does, it appeared to be an item ball that was replaced with the tile with the white space/curved line, and you can see item balls/NPCs after escaping from battle with -gm (hex:6A) in Yellow.

I am reminded of those circle things to place boulders on in Victory Road. Maybe they are relevant?

[img]http://i1.minus.com/ibeALDI9hV01gt.png[/img]

Re: What exactly are those curved lines?

Posted by: Bent`
Date: 2015-01-22 11:42:21
Its in the disassembly as gfx/mon_ow_sprites.png.

engine/mon_party_sprites.asm refers to it:

        dw MonPartySprites + $100
        db $40 / $10 ; $40 bytes
        db BANK(MonPartySprites)
        dw vSprites + $380

        dw MonPartySprites + $140
        db $40 / $10 ; $40 bytes
        db BANK(MonPartySprites)
        dw vSprites + $780

These create two 16⁢x16 overworld sprites:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/5mfnApl.png[/img] [img]https://i.imgur.com/BoDETzt.png[/img]

Where are they actually used? Heck if I know.

Re: What exactly are those curved lines?

Posted by: Crystalame
Date: 2015-01-22 18:00:52
Stared at this for a while, and finally, it hit me. They look an insane amount like the circles around the menu sprite while trading.

(Using one of Torchickens' videos as reference.)

Re: What exactly are those curved lines?

Posted by: Spoink
Date: 2015-01-23 05:56:20
Oh yeah ! I do remember thinking about something like that.

Re: What exactly are those curved lines?

Posted by: Torchickens
Date: 2015-01-23 06:06:07
Thanks IIMarckus and Crystalame (and Spoink).

They do seem to be used for trades then!

[img]http://i5.minus.com/iL5hLMFRjiwPs.png[/img][img]http://i1.minus.com/iUboxgPz3fdjS.png[/img]