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Unused data in ORAS - Page 1

Unused data in ORAS

Posted by: Charmy
Date: 2016-08-15 13:59:09
Hello.
First off, i don't know where to post this, it's not about glitches so i think it should be here. If I'm wrong then please move this topic.
Also, I'm new to this forum (kinda, i have been reading it as a Guest for maybe a year) so please share some respect to new users.
I wanted to start a small research about ORAS's unused data, such as trainer classes, items etc.
For now, i want to share info i already have.
When i will get access to my stationary PC (where i have all the files) i will start the search.

I probably might update Bulbapedia's page on this because it's almost empty.
So, no more talking, let's start.

The "Soar" field move

In the text data of ORAS, (at gametext file 80) there is a line for a field move called Soar. I think that the Eon Flute replaced this very late in the development as it's the last item to be implemented.

Unused Items

I also found data about key items from gens 4 and 5, such as the Explorer Kit, Magma Stone,Pokétch Coupons, Xtransceiver…
Even the unused ones like Seal Bag.
They have a fully functional description, but i don't know about icons.
I think they are for compatibility reasons.

Unused Trainer Classes

All classes from XY remain in ORAS, some are probably used in the Battle Maison (like Youngster, Lass), some are for compatibly with those games, but some are completly unused.
These include XY ones and some new ORAS ones:
Team Flare:
They have no data assigned to them besides the names, no model, no special intro/music, nothing.
Unused Swimmer/Triathlete Classes:
They have no name, only sprites. They are the ORAS ones.
EDIT:Their name is [~###] with ### being a number corresponding to the class index number, however, this string displays as a space bar.

That's all for now, remember that i have no access to my main PC right now, so i can't research (that's what i remember).
EDIT: I copied RomFS onto my brother's laptop so i now can research.
I will be doing research on XY as well, but i want to finish ORAS first.

Re: Unused data in ORAS

Posted by: Yeniaul
Date: 2016-08-15 16:22:12
Cool. I wish I had a 3DS…

Re: Unused data in ORAS

Posted by: Charmy
Date: 2016-08-17 12:29:20
@up I wish TeraCopy wouldn't crash and i wouldn't need to start copying again.
I'm now copying my clean AS romfs so i will possibly do more research (1,2 days left… good… oh sorry, 14 minutes left).
EDIT:Already done.
Also, i updated Bulbapedia's page on unused data in ORAS and added some stuff about the "Soar" field move.

Ok there's more.

Untranslated JP text

First off I'm not referring to the lines about the PWT. These are completely different.
The first two files are about Super Training (the ones with bag text data and stage text data). And the third one is possibly the Judge (that guy who tells you about you Pokémon's IV's).

Re: Unused data in ORAS

Posted by: Yeniaul
Date: 2016-08-17 17:59:55

@up I wish TeraCopy wouldn't crash and i wouldn't need to start copying again.

Use whatever terminal/command prompt you have to copy it. It'll go much faster and be more stable because it doesn't have a GUI to load. It should be your go-to for copying  ~ 512MB files (of which 3DS ROMs have many).

Re: Unused data in ORAS

Posted by: Charmy
Date: 2016-08-18 08:52:05
Yeah, didn't think of that. Anyway, i have more stuff:

Unused Trainers

First one, I'm not sure, but i think it's unused:
It's a Team Aqua Grunt with a level 49 Muk and a level 49 Carvanha and it's index number is 21, right after the first Aqua Grunt battle, it has AI level of 1, lower than it should and prize money value of 10.
Then there's two without a name, with a invalid class, with one level 5 Zigzagoon. It has AI level of 5 and prize money level of 10.
Then there's two Youngsters without a name, with a level 5 Zigzagoon, AI level of 0 and prize money of 4.
Then there's unused Lady, Rich Boy and Pokémon Breeders, all of them have a level 5 Zigzagoon, AI of 0 and varying prize money (30,30,10,10), Lady and Rich Boy ones have one Full Restore each.
Then there's a unused Beauty, same team, AI of 1 and money of 14, Two unused Kindlers (AI:0,$=8),Unused Pokémon Breeder (0,10), Picnicker (1,4), Aroma Lady (0,8), Bird Keepers (0,10), Ninja Boys (0,4),Another Pokémon Breeder (0,10), Poké Maniac (0,7), Psychics (5,8), Triathletes (0,10), [~172] (5,10), Aqua Admin (0,10), Aqua Grunt (0,10), Poké Maniac (0,7), Battle Girl (7,8), Schoolkid (0,5), Camper (0,4), Hiker (0,8), Bird Keeper (0,10), Ace Trainers (0,15),  Magma Grunt\Admin (0,10), Another Magma Admin (0,40), Another one (0,10), Unused Archie Roster (#lvl5ZiggysForTheWin) carrying two Super Potions (0,40), Unused Maxie (same as above), Aqua\Magma Grunts (0,10), Unused Twins (two Ziggy's) (128,2), Camper (0,4), Picnicker (0,4), Beauty (1,14), Ace Trainers (7,15),  [~144] and it's rematches (0,10), Bird Keeper (5,10), Male\Female Psychics (0,8), Sailors (0,10), Hex Maniac (0,7), Dragon Tamers (0,15), Triathletes (0,10), [~191] (5,10),  Swimmers () (0,4), Ace Trainer (5,15), Twins (128,2), Sis&Bro (128,5), Psychic (0,8), Twins (128,2), Gentleman (0,50), Beauty (0,14), Old Couples (128,40), Bug Maniac (Note:Has "Items" Checked, however Ziggy doesn't hold anything) (5,7), Dragon Tamer (Note:Index no.666) (0,15), Unused Brendan\May's (same ones are present waaay earlier), Scuba Divers (0,10), Free Divers (Note: I don't even know this class exists) (0,10), Fairy Tale Girl (5,4), Street Thug (0,8), Delinquent (0,8), Male Swimmers (1,4), Ace Duo's (128,15) and two (probably unused) Magma\Aqua Grunts (level 51 Mightyena, AI:1, $:10).
Uhhh my hands hurt.

MOAR!
Unused PokéMart

There's also a Poké Mart which sells Potions, Sea Incenses and Lax Incenses.

I have more.
Unused Volcanion event


I also found text related to a unused Volcanion event:
Freshly from dumped storytext GARC files.
Hot diggidy!\nThats a Volcanion you have there, isnt it?
As far as I know, the people in that group are the\nonly ones in history to have seen this Pokémon.\c\nTo think that Id meet a Trainer who not only\nfound Volcanion, but actually caught it!
What a day! I like you, kid!\nIm the head of this TV studio.\c\nHow about I show you some top-secret\nspecials we made about Volcanion?
Theyre a little something I made for a\nTV show once back in the day, but...\c\nWell, things didnt work out, and they\nended up getting shelved.
OK! Sit back and enjoy!\nMy top-secret Volcanion specials!
All right! Which clip would you like to watch?
This is a special edition of MVTV:\nExplorations of the Ancient World!\c\nJoin us deep in the swamplands of the Kalos\nregion where we found a mythical Volcanion!\c\n...\c\nExplorer: B-boss! There it is! Its Volcanion!\c\nBrandon: Oh! Get back! If it blows,\nit could send even huge mountains flying!\c\nIt can change moisture into super-heated steam\nin an instant with its internal organs\r\ncausing a massive explosion!\c\nExplorer: That was a close one!\nThanks for saving me, boss!\c\nBrandon: Stay alert at all times!\nDont forget your courage sensor!
This is a special edition of MVTV:\nExplorations of the Ancient World!\c\nJoin us in the untouched woodlands of the Sinnoh\nregion where we found a mythical Volcanion!\c\n...\c\nExplorer: B-boss! There it is! Its Volcanion!\c\nBrandon: Oh! Get back! Look at those arm-like\nthings growing out of its back!\c\nIt uses those to suck in moisture\nto turn into a thick fog!\r\nIf we stay here, well be trapped in the fog!\c\nExplorer: That was a close one!\nThanks for saving me, boss!\c\nBrandon: Stay alert at all times!\nDont forget your courage sensor!
This is a special edition of MVTV:\nExplorations of the Ancient World!\c\nJoin us on a desert island in the Johto\nregion where we found a mythical Volcanion!\c\n...\c\nExplorer: B-boss! There it is! Its Volcanion!\c\nBrandon: Oh! Get back! An explosion from Volcanion\ncan even change mountain ranges into plains!\c\nIts thought that ancient land masses were\nformed in that way.\c\nExplorer: That was a close one!\nThanks for saving me, boss!\c\nBrandon: Stay alert at all times!\nDont forget your courage sensor!
How about that?! Quite\nthe spectacle, wasnt it?\c\nThats our fantastic TV series\nfrom the famous explorer Brandon!
All right, that was quite the spectacle!\c\nThats our fantastic TV series\nfrom the famous explorer Brandon!
Part One
Part Two
Part Three
Dont watch
NOTE:I know that this event is possibly available in-game for people in Japan and North America, but European versions have it unused.

EDIT:I can't upload the files so we need to wait."plz adminz fix thiz"
Uploaded.