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Pokemon Yellow (German) - MAX DV and IV - Page 1

Pokemon Yellow (German) - MAX DV and IV

Posted by: Flippy
Date: 2017-07-03 01:09:53
Hi there,

it's my first post in this forum so please bear with me (i've searched for a same topic but only found this: http://forums.glitchcity.info/index.php?topic=7843.0 wich doesnt exactly helps me)

I've seen this video on Saturday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR5rov2e6PU&list=PLlLgBsYY1T4sJf1MeyQmn8r9w8VgXE_Zu

so i was triggered to try this. Loaded up my yellow cartdrige into Pokemon Stadium and 5hours later i was ready to try to use the WS M item. Well, long story short, my save file got destroyed.

I used the alternative pokemon order (swapped growlithe with scyther).

So, now i'm back at the point to catch the Pokemon again (got the WS M Item again + a Nidoking with 183 special for missingno

Can i use those Pokemon

Tangela with 233 HPs currently)
Nidoking
Metapod
Haunter
Flareon
Parasect
Kadabra
Tentacool
Grimer
Another random Pokémon, but just one

with the Item combination fromt he video to max my IVs?

I don't really understand yet what wiped my game. Was it a wrong bootstrap order or was it a wrong set of items?


If i'm sounding a bit nooby i'm sorry in advance. I've started with all this on just saturday and i want to get a grasp of it.


BTW:

If i would play on a emulator with my Pokemon Version and an active memory viewer would it act the same as my actual catridge in my Pokemon stadium?


I'm not in a rush, i don't want to transfer pokemon over to sun and moon (i don't own those) i was just curious to see if this really works.



best regards

Flippy

Re: Pokemon Yellow (German) - MAX DV and IV

Posted by: ISSOtm
Date: 2017-07-03 08:02:42
Okay, your problem is either that you aren't using the English language, or that you failed to use the correct setup (either box, including that you didn't have that box as your active box when using the item; or item setup). We need to know which version and language of the game you're using.

To reduce the chances of corrupting your save file on your next attempt :
1. Save your game (this makes save file corruption waaay more likely !!)
2. View a Pokémon's summary (this counters the previous action's chances of corrupting the save ! :D)
3. Use ws m. If you crash you're THAT less likely to nuke your save file :)

Also you technically can recover a corrupted save file. It's just that you have to obtain 8F and run this setup without ever saving in-between :D. Good luck.

Re: Pokemon Yellow (German) - MAX DV and IV

Posted by: Flippy
Date: 2017-07-03 11:20:34
Auch sorry didn't include it in the post:

I'm playing the German version. I've already used the the alternative layout stated in the yt video (swapping growlithe with scyther). This was stated to work on DE (German = deutsch) versions. But, we'll it didn't…

Because in the comments  was written to ask here I've opened a thread. I've searched for other similar threads already and found the one in the second link. But this thread is only for getting the id's to 10, I'd like to get 15 though

I'm happy for any help

BTW, I've got the ws m item again, so I don't need to recover the save file. Didn't take that long with double speed, 2x lvl 100 (nidoking + ivysaur before brock, because of 183 and 194 special) and skipping snorlax

Best regards

Flippy

Re: Pokemon Yellow (German) - MAX DV and IV

Posted by: ISSOtm
Date: 2017-07-03 12:55:43
This setup won't work for EU versions. I'm quoting Torchickens here for a setup that does :

[tt]
1.  20 Pokémon in your PC box
2.  Slowpoke as the 1st Pokémon in the current PC box
3.  Slowpoke as the 2nd Pokémon in the current PC box
4.  Slowpoke as the 3rd Pokémon in the current PC box
5.  Slowpoke as the 4th Pokémon in the current PC box
6.  Slowpoke as the 5th Pokémon in the current PC box
7.  Slowpoke as the 6th Pokémon in the current PC box
8.  Voltorb as the 7th Pokémon in the current PC box
9.  Kadabra as the 8th Pokémon in the current PC box
10. Jolteon as the 9th Pokémon in the current PC box
11. Geodude as the 10th Pokémon in the current PC box
12. Geodude as the 11th Pokémon in the current PC box
13. Geodude as the 12th Pokémon in the current PC box
14. Geodude as the 13th Pokémon in the current PC box
15. Geodude as the 14th Pokémon in the current PC box
16. Geodude as the 16th Pokémon in the current PC box
17. Geodude as the 15th Pokémon in the current PC box
18. Geodude as the 17th Pokémon in the current PC box
19. Geodude as the 18th Pokémon in the current PC box
20. Geodude as the 19th Pokémon in the current PC box
21. Voltorb as the 20th Pokémon in the current PC box
22. Slowpoke as the 1st Pokémon in the current PC box
23. First PC box Pokémon needs to have 233 HP
[/tt]

Tested ;)

Re: Pokemon Yellow (German) - MAX DV and IV

Posted by: Flippy
Date: 2017-07-03 13:16:57
Nice, gonna try this this evening

You're the man, thanks

Re: Pokemon Yellow (German) - MAX DV and IV

Posted by: Flippy
Date: 2017-07-04 05:54:27
So,

i've tried it with this setup, definitly works. I've duplicated the second item without my save getting corrupted.

Was the last i did before going to bed yesterday. What i've noticed:

My item number count ends on 3. So it isn't 255 like in the video i've posted. I'll have a look at what amount i'm actually getting when perfoming the glitch. As i've said, it was the last i did. Then i turned off my Gameboy, put it on my desk and fell asleep

Thanks again for providing the list. As of now, i'm hyped :D


best regards

Flippy

Re: Pokemon Yellow (German) - MAX DV and IV

Posted by: Flippy
Date: 2017-07-04 13:19:35
So, I'm back at it again

Double checked on the items: it's indeed 255 no 253. So all clear there.

I've set up my items now according to the video and my save is still alive and kicking

It all works good until the very last part: picking the pokemon back up again then my game freezes

I'm using your box layout with the following item combination :


Any
Wsm
Lemonade 255
X_Accuracy 134
Carbos 209
Pokeball 119
Fresh Water  201

Then I use the wsm, toss 1 X-Acc rinse and repeat 11 times (stop at 123 Xacc). Then using wsm again once more, deposit the pokemon and pick it back up again

This results in a freeze. My game is still finde though

Re: Pokemon Yellow (German) - MAX DV and IV

Posted by: ISSOtm
Date: 2017-07-05 06:05:27
Try starting with 5 more X Accuracies (thus "X Accuracy x139")

Re: Pokemon Yellow (German) - MAX DV and IV

Posted by: Flippy
Date: 2017-07-05 13:59:01
Thanks for the reply,

I've tried it with 139 too (found a thread from some time ago)

Well, game still freezes, I've noticed something though:

The pokemon (mew in this case on 100) has full stats in the box, I've checked the status from the box menu.

I haven't fought with mew before, so I thought maybe he needs some starting iv to begin with

So I've fought a ratatta and my mew didn't listen anymore. It's trainer I'd went to ffff. After I killed the ratatta my mew leveled up to 7 (from 100)

Seems like I somehow overwrote other variables

Is xperience higher or lower stored than dv/iv?

Edit:

Well, I've stuffed my mew with rc now. Well….


My mew has max stats even though my game froze and instead of its move on 30 he learned tm 55 with 0pp

Is it dangerous to go on now?

Re: Pokemon Yellow (German) - MAX DV and IV

Posted by: Caveat
Date: 2017-07-06 07:15:11
That's… weird.
I'm not good with Assembly, but you might have overwritten some extra variables.
I know you didn't overwrite Mew's learnset somehow, because that's stored in ROM, but I don't know what else could have caused it.

Re: Pokemon Yellow (German) - MAX DV and IV

Posted by: ISSOtm
Date: 2017-07-06 07:51:51
US Red/Blue RAM map : http://datacrystal.romhacking.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Red/Blue:RAM_map#Player$
[tt]
D179-D17B - Experience
D17C-D17D - HP EV
D17E-D17F - Attack EV
D180-D181 - Defense EV
D182-D183 - Speed EV
D184-D185 - Special EV
D186 - Attack/Defense IV
D187 - Speed/Special IV
D188 - PP Move 1
D189 - PP Move 2
D18A - PP Move 3
D18B - PP Move 4
[/tt]
Experience is above EVs and IVs. I'm unsure what went wrong.

Re: Pokemon Yellow (German) - MAX DV and IV

Posted by: Flippy
Date: 2017-07-06 14:08:10
So, now I tested with a fresh pokemon and it worked. Seems like my mew was bugged from the first setup.

But now since this works…

My wsm somehow glitched my tm24 to be Lemonade now. Any way to get it back?

Re: Pokemon Yellow (German) - MAX DV and IV

Posted by: ISSOtm
Date: 2017-07-06 14:16:02
Try this :

ws m
Any item (preferably a Moon Stone)
Poké Ball x43 (hex:2B)
Great Ball x43 (hex:2B)
Revive x201 (hex:C9)

Use until the 2nd item has turned into a TM24 :)

Re: Pokemon Yellow (German) - MAX DV and IV

Posted by: Flippy
Date: 2017-07-08 08:14:48
This works, thanks a lot