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Investigating an apparent Vs. Seeker glitch involving a Bad Egg from 2006 - Page 1

Investigating an apparent Vs. Seeker glitch involving a Bad Egg from 2006

Posted by: Torchickens
Date: 2018-04-13 22:42:22
There is a YouTube video by Shadrio uploaded on April 29, 2006 where apparently without any cheats they found a Trainer with a Bad Egg while using the Vs. Seeker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqbG7YitDhw

Two of the only clues regarding how they might have done it are that apparently the opposing Trainer had one Pokémon less than normal and his first Pokémon was meant to be a Machoke.

(According to Bulbapedia), as you can find Machoke Trainers in Kindle Road and Ruin Valley, it may be a good idea to use the Vs. Seeker on Trainers there and we never know there could be a way to replicate the glitch.

Another clue is the battle background. Though blurry, it looks like it might be in the sand (e.g. on a beach or in the desert). This could potentially rule out some of the Machoke Trainers.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/j8pOEqZ.png[/img]

Re: Investigating an apparent Vs. Seeker glitch involving a Bad Egg from 2006

Posted by: Lost-Paisley
Date: 2018-04-14 21:35:12
I'd question the validity of whether a cheating device was used or not; anyone can claim they didn't use a cheating device and discover this, especially back then like 2006. Of course you can't tell by the video alone.

The only clue on how it was done is that they used the vs. seeker, not the trainer having 1 less mon and the original mon being a Machoke (that's the result). And unfortunately they don't elaborate on what else they did before using the vs. seeker other than they were simply training.

Re: Investigating an apparent Vs. Seeker glitch involving a Bad Egg from 2006

Posted by: Torchickens
Date: 2018-04-15 07:36:10
That's true, and a memory so long back could get distorted.

I believe Machoke is still a clue as they said his first Pokémon "was supposed to be a Machoke", so it sounds like the Trainer had Machoke, unless the game said it sent out an unintended Machoke but it turned into the Egg or something.

Re: Investigating an apparent Vs. Seeker glitch involving a Bad Egg from 2006

Posted by: ISSOtm
Date: 2018-04-15 08:59:23
Perhaps that it was supposed to be a Machoke because of a "All wild Pokémon are Machoke" code ? :P

Re: Investigating an apparent Vs. Seeker glitch involving a Bad Egg from 2006

Posted by: Metarkrai
Date: 2018-04-15 09:02:14
This is very strange indeed. (and this isn't something that happened to me when I was using wrong AR codes when I was young)

The fact that the trainer had 1 less Pokémon might come from the Bad Egg, as Eggs/Bad Eggs aren't displayed as "PokéBalls" at the beginning of a battle (or when a Pokémon is sent out after a KO).

Since the in-battle moves are stored elsewhere in memory and since they are written there as soon as the opponent's Pokémon are loaded in memory, they are not tied to the corruption that the Machoke suffered (which transformed it into a Bad Egg).

The cartridge slot of the console isn't shown, so the use of an AR code is a possible explanation.

This Machoke also knew Cross Chop, something that he learns at Lv 46 in FrLg.
And the battle is on the sand. (not on plain rock which gives a grayish background.
There are only 2 trainers with a Lv46+ Machoke as 1st Pokémon and who are in the sand :
Black Belt Shea, Black Belt Hugh
They are both at Kindle Road (the 2 karatekas that run back and forth in the path).

I'll try using Vs Seeker multiple times there to see if something strange happens.