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ROM hacking chat - Page 2

Re: ROM hacking chat

Posted by: Newo
Date: 2007-07-01 13:41:13
No, It is against the rules, sorry. You will have to find them yourself.

Re: ROM hacking chat

Posted by: Axaj
Date: 2007-07-01 21:16:36

No, It is against the rules, sorry. You will have to find them yourself.


      Oh.  Ok.  Besides, I discovered some ROM sites in my favorites.

Re: ROM hacking chat

Posted by: pokeking_7_7
Date: 2007-07-03 11:09:05
ILLIGAL

Hello

Re: ROM hacking chat

Posted by: Abwayax
Date: 2007-07-03 14:59:33
18,000TH POST

Re: ROM hacking chat

Posted by: Axaj
Date: 2007-07-06 21:45:52

ILLIGAL

Hello



Okay, the big topic nowadays is ROM legality. Are ROMs legal if you own the original game, yada, yada, yada… Well, I did some researching last night and came across this site: http://www.worldofspectrum.org/EmuFAQ2000/EmuFAQ_Y2KAddendum2.htm (Warning: Language) This site here, has some information on the use of ROMs for "fair-use." This sire goes in depth about court cases that would relate to ROMs, such as the 1984 "Betamax Case." The Supreme Court of the U.S. said that non-infringing use of something for personal use, can be considered "fair-use" and legal, in a nutshell that is. I've found two sites; one with the full information about the Sony v. Universal Case (Betamax) and one for some sections of the copyright policy of the U.S. The Betamax Case can be found here at http://www.eff.org/legal/cases/sony_v_universal_decision.html and the section of the U.S. law can be found here at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sup_01_17.html. I will continue to look for the other cases for now. Let this be known though: The article has copyright of a few years ago, so it may not be up to date. The other thing is, I am not fully sure of ROM legality yet, but I'm doing the research. Do not use this as an excuse to say that ROMs are legal, until you have read everything and checked all the cases for yourself. Also note, that I am not telling you to go download ROMs either. This post is just for some information on the subject, and do not go by this. Also, I was not the one who wrote the article either, so I take no credit. (Wow, too many alsos ><)


xparasite9, did you even read everything in there, or did you just try to shoot me down? (Not flaming, asking a question.) The thing is though, the intention of the game is to be enjoyable to the user, and the product is owned by the user. If you've read, and went to the other sites, and red the copyright law, you could make a good judgement yourself. Listen here, as the guy stated in the article, "code is code" no matter what. Emulators themselves are perfectly legal for example, and they're used to simulate old OSs and other things such as video game systems. Emulators are specifically designed to read ROMs, but also serve other purposes. People who own ROMs and emulators for older systems, such as the Commodore(sp?) 64 (Just an example), are they still breaking the law when they have their old system with all their old programs sitting in a closet next to them? What if the only way to preserve alive the old programs through ROMs? (Which, nowadays it pretty much is.) According to companies, if you recorded live TV, that was illegal. What do we have now? Tivo. It's not illegal to save shows on the hard drive. It is illegal if you sell them though. Same principle applies to ROMs. (BTW, RAM = Virtual memory. Technically, a hard drive is RAM/Virtual memory. So, in essence, if you copy it to a hard drive, you're still holding it in your RAM.)


NOT ILLIGAL

Hello

Re: ROM hacking chat

Posted by: pokeking_7_7
Date: 2007-07-07 02:49:27
Lets Speak about HACKING

Re: ROM hacking chat

Posted by: Wicked Klown
Date: 2007-07-07 03:00:31
Ahem you mean TALK about hacking?

Re: ROM hacking chat

Posted by: pokeking_7_7
Date: 2007-07-07 07:44:13
Sorry. Lets do a hacking comeptiton.

Re: ROM hacking chat

Posted by: Newo
Date: 2007-07-07 17:14:03
It is very hard to do a decent hack. No one can make a good hack in a week. It usually years and years to make it anything close to a decent hack.

A hacking competition would never be completed.

Re: ROM hacking chat

Posted by: Wicked Klown
Date: 2007-07-07 17:51:47
Man this Pokeking guy does act like cheese from fosters, which I don't watch but I know since I've seen that episode.

Re: ROM hacking chat

Posted by: Abwayax
Date: 2007-07-07 18:39:59
[smallcaps][size=20pt]Administrative Edict[/size][/smallcaps]

From the reply to this post until the 5th page of this thread, every reply to this thread must be in the format of:
MISPELD WORD OR PHRAZE

Greeting

Re: ROM hacking chat

Posted by: Abwayax
Date: 2007-07-07 18:40:41
LIEK THIS

Howdy

Re: ROM hacking chat

Posted by: Wicked Klown
Date: 2007-07-07 20:57:40

LIEK THIS

Howdy


Abwayax…….

Re: ROM hacking chat

Posted by: Abwayax
Date: 2007-07-07 21:48:12
nononono you're doing it wrong

ABWYAXA

'Sup

Re: ROM hacking chat

Posted by: Wicked Klown
Date: 2007-07-07 23:13:27

nononono you're doing it wrong

ABWYAXA

'Sup


Aye tehn, hey its me Doc Papa