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Team size for playing through the game - Page 2

Re: Team size for playing through the game

Posted by: Yeniaul
Date: 2016-09-02 18:50:52
Bert, that's the best strategy I've seen here so far. However…

Your strongest should be at the BOTTOM, second-strongest above that, and so on. This seems counter-intuitive, HOWEVER this will make your stronger 'mons seem weaker, as your subconscious sees more damage up front. This allows you to prepare yourself for situations when your lead is KO'd and the rest are weaker, as you'll subconsciously want to grind to up your 'mons' strength more and they'll end up even closer together in level AND stats.

Re: Team size for playing through the game

Posted by: Charmy
Date: 2016-09-03 12:23:06

"Cancerous"? If you explain in more detail, and still have the card, I could walk you through treatment and recovery, nice and slow.

It began f****ing up everything when i was watching YouTube, then my phone even crashed when browsing thru the cart, right now it's completely dead and lying in the "thresh".
First, it didn't want to save anything on it. Then, some of my files were corrupt and the music player (the default Android 4.4.4 one) app even had a folder with Chinese that said "HI"…
[size=30pt]- _ -[/size]
#REKT

Anyway back to topic, my AS team is full of level 100 shinys i got from WT :)

Re: Team size for playing through the game

Posted by: Charmy
Date: 2016-09-04 08:48:07
As i said, it's lying on a pile of thrash somewhere in the universe. And i don't want to give you the contents of anything.

Re: Team size for playing through the game

Posted by: Yeniaul
Date: 2016-09-04 09:19:22

As i said, it's lying on a pile of thrash somewhere in the universe. And i don't want to give you the contents of anything.
It's not like I'm a snooping asshole. I don't care what weird porn you have.

And the word you're looking for is "trash", not "thrash". The first is garbage. The second is "bad beating".

Re: Team size for playing through the game

Posted by: Charmy
Date: 2016-09-04 11:39:23
Yeah yeah, my English isn't perfect.
But:
1:I have stuff like my roms, saves and some private documents on there.
2:It's in the trash.

Re: Team size for playing through the game

Posted by: ravioli
Date: 2016-09-05 00:03:42

Yeah yeah, my English isn't perfect.
But:
1:I have stuff like my roms, saves and some private documents on there.
2:It's in the trash.


Might I ask where you're from? It'd be nice if you were Spanish, I'd like to see other latin/Spaniards in this community c:

Re: Team size for playing through the game

Posted by: Spoink
Date: 2016-09-05 04:06:39
I don't care what weird porn you have.


[size=4pt]you have no fucking idea[/size]

Re: Team size for playing through the game

Posted by: Yeniaul
Date: 2016-09-05 09:01:59

I don't care what weird porn you have.


[size=4pt]you have no fucking idea[/size]

The current Rule 34 of the Internet is a LOT weaker than it used to be. It used to state that no matter what, with 34 clicks you can go from any site to a porn site. And yes, this is still true.


Oh, and this thread has been derailed, thrown into space, and vaporized. Can we get back to it?

Re: Team size for playing through the game

Posted by: Charmy
Date: 2016-09-06 10:55:47

Might I ask where you're from? It'd be nice if you were Spanish, I'd like to see other latin/Spaniards in this community c:

Wrong, Poland.
But our language is (kinda) from Latin :)
I'll post my Y team soon.

Re: Team size for playing through the game

Posted by: Nihil
Date: 2016-09-06 21:32:50
I've only played gens 1, 3 and 5 and since I have no interest in speedruns or competitive battling, my teams tend to ok being weak : ) Well, relatively so anyway.

In the older games, do you play SHIFT or SET, what team size do you prefer, and do you need to grind levels (up to beating the Elite Four anyway)?

I've always played on SHIFT mode! I find that switching between opponents is very good to take advantage of typing matchups and all that jazz. I prefer sticking to 6 pokémon team by the end of the game, but I am slow to acquire them, so the actual number of pokémon I have will increase as I progress. And yes, I need to grind for levels, but I find that sticking to doing all possible trainer battles is usually enough!

Can an expert play an evenly-levelled team of 6 without grinding? How about on SET?

Oh, that's quite the question… If you acquire everyone early on and make good use of Experience sharing strategies, you might not need, but that heavily depends on just how much experience your pokémon need to keep up.

About teams on SET mode… well, it certainly doesn't help the matter at all, since experience gets even most concentrated! I know it firsthand from a gameplay of the ridiculously hard (and horribly planned/executed…) Pokémon Dark Rising ROM Hack. I didn't know there were two modes at all back then and accidentally changed it to SET early on.

As a result, the entire thing was made more difficult than it was to begin to begin with! Since I couldn't waste turns to the behemoths thrown my way (really? wonder guard pokémon with no weakness???) all the experience was thrown into the first pokémon I had and grinding took most of the actual gameplay. Yeah, SET makes things worse.

Re: Team size for playing through the game

Posted by: Charmy
Date: 2016-09-09 13:00:24

Oh, and this thread has been derailed, thrown into space, and vaporized. Can we get back to it?

Well, we're going back to it.
Ok there's my teams:
Y:
1:
Species:Unfezant
Nature:Bashful
Ability:Super Luck
Item:None
Other:Shiny, Transfered from White 2, Obtained from Wonder Trade.
Level:60
Stats:
HP 173 ATK 173 DEF 114 SP.ATK 202 SP.DEF 90 SPD 136
Moves:
Air Cutter
Facade
Razor Wind
Fly
2:
Species:Umbreon
Nature:Modest
Ability:Inner Focus
Item:Luck Incense
Other:Obtained from GTS.
Level:77
Stats:
HP 259 ATK 148 DEF 192 SP.ATK 135 SP.DEF 232 SPD 135
Moves:
Shadow Ball
Toxic
Return
Dig
3:
Species:Greninja
Nature:Hardy
Ability:Torrent
Item:Shell Bell
Other:Has some ribbons, my starter
Level:100 (lel)
Stats:
HP 269 ATK 231 DEF 176 SP.ATK 260 SP.DEF 167 SPD 289
Moves:
Water Shuriken
Ice Beam
Hydro Pump
Hydro Cannon
4:
Species:Charizard
Nature:Jolly
Ability:Blaze
Item:Charizardite Y
Other:None
Level:100 (lel again)
Stats:
HP 307 ATK 226 DEF 204 SP.ATK 243 SP.DEF 204 SPD 284
Moves:
Flare Blitz
Inferno
Blast Burn
Rock Smash (kek)
5:
Species:Talonflame
Nature:Bashful
Ability:Flame Body
Item:no
Other:no
Level:71
Stats:
HP 205 ATK 148 DEF 133 SP.ATK 143 SP.DEF 121 SPD 218
Moves:
Flamethrower
Acrobatics
Brave Bird
Fly
6:
Species:Lucario
Nature:Hasty
Ability:Steadfast
Item:Lucarionite
Other:no
Level:70
Stats:
HP 189 ATK 194 DEF 111 SP.ATK 196 SP.DEF 126 SPD 200
Moves:
Power-Up Punch
Dragon Pulse
Extreme Speed
Close Combat

And now my Blue team (VC edition)

1:
Species:Missingno.
Name:OLDEN (reply #LORDHELIXSAVEUS if you understand this reference)
Other:nuun
Level:100 (was 160 when caught)
Stats:
HP 191 ATK 290 DEF 32 SP 40 SPD 91
Moves:
Water Gun
Water Gun
Sky Attack
Toxic
2:
Species:Mewtwo
Name:MEWTWO
Other:OldMan'd
Level:100 (was 151)
Stats:
HP 356 ATK 239 DEF 214 SP 348 SPD 292
Moves:
Psychic
Recover
Fire Blast
Amnesia
3:
Species:Charizard
Name:p——xs
Other:Starter
Level:100
Stats:
HP 288 ATK 183 DEF 193 SP 188 SPD 233
Moves:
Rage
Fire Spin
Flamethrower
Cut
4:
Species:NIDOKIIING!!!!!!
Name:(S
Other:Pain to encounter it…
Level:100 (was 1)
Stats:
HP 326 ATK 244 DEF 212 SP 204 SPD 202
Moves:
Thunderbolt
Bubblebeam
Surf
Thrash
5:
Species:Vaporeon
Name:() ?MnMnW
Other:Has 2 stats that are the same
Level:100
Stats:
HP 364 ATK 151 DEF 151 SP 231 SPD 141
Moves:
Hydro Pump
Blizzard
Quick Attack
Water Gun
6:
Species:Fearow
Name:h
Other:nun
Level:100
Stats:
HP 258 ATK 239 DEF 155 SP 137 SPD 213
Moves:
Drill Peck
Fly
Mirror Move
Agility

Re: Team size for playing through the game

Posted by: IceFlame
Date: 2016-09-11 18:45:55
I'm playing through Gold with a team of 6, so will see how that goes.

Also reloaded some save backups from Crystal (team of 3) to see what would happen. No specific level grinding in that run, but I did fight nearly all the trainers.

Before the first go at the Elite Four:

Lanturn L44 @ Magnet
Surf
Spark
Confuse Ray
Thunder Wave

Parasect L39 @ Pink Ribbon
Return
Pursuit
False Swipe
Spore

Typhlosion L45 @ Charcoal
Flame Wheel
Swift
Smokescreen
Headbutt

At the time (on SHIFT), I remember having some difficulty with most of them because I didn't really know what I was doing. Lance was a big problem back then, and I ended up abusing savestates to get past him.

Fought them on SET today, and the first four went down without much trouble, just needing a few recovery items. For Lance, it makes sense to use Lanturn (L45) for the whole battle - setting up with 3 XSpecial on Gyarados (which can't hurt it that much) it can then 2-hit all the Dragonites with Spark.

Jumping to Green:

Lanturn L53 @ Leftovers
Parasect L52 @ Leftovers
Typhlosion L52 @ Charcoal
(same attacks)

I don't recall having any issues back then. Anyway, no problems this time - won on SET with no consumable items.

And on to Red:

Back then, I didn't fight Red for quite a while afterwards (beat the Elite Four a few more times and did some dex-filling). Heading straight for Mt Silver this time. I was able to beat Red on SET with these guys, though needed to fall back to the "send out HM slaves and use Revives" strategy. The X items don't seem very useful in this case. Red has 2 Full Restores, and for some reason he uses them when a Pokemon is asleep and undamaged (while Lance and Green are smarter about it) so I can just use Spore on the first 3 turns and make him waste them.

A bit more (human) experience makes a big difference! Seems I picked a pretty good team though.

Re: Team size for playing through the game

Posted by: ISSOtm
Date: 2016-09-11 18:55:58
I know I'm not original here, but sclewp it !
I only play Red as of now, so… yeah. Totally not overhyped for the 7th gen.

I usually start with my solo starter, then tryhard for an hour at best to get a nicey Lv 100 Nidoking. Then it's basically RAPING TIME until I reach Fuchsia City. There I set up à 6-Pokémon 8F bootstrap with Nidoking / CoolDitto in front, and breeze through stuff using WTW, and finish the League off as a pacifist (by NoClipping through the doors :P).

So… your average 6-Pokémon 8F bootstrap team. With a Nidoking.

Re: Team size for playing through the game

Posted by: Charmy
Date: 2016-09-12 12:50:50

So… your average 6-Pokémon 8F bootstrap team. With a Nidoking.

Well, umm, no. I will not use 8F for now, I have GARY though.


I usually start with my solo starter, then tryhard for an hour at best to get a nicey Lv 100 Nidoking. Then it's basically RAPING TIME until I reach Fuchsia City.

I feel the pain trying to set up that trainer-fly with the blackout method. It took me two days. I didn't even plan on getting a Nidoking, i just encountered a level 3 Pidgey, and it happened to have perfect special DV's.

There I set up à 6-Pokémon 8F bootstrap with Nidoking / CoolDitto in front, and breeze through stuff using WTW, and finish the League off as a pacifist (by NoClipping through the doors :P).

Goddamn French keyboard modes for the win! (I don't think AZERTY is a good idea)
I beat the E4 kinda legit, i only skipped Bruno for some reason…
THE POWER OF GARY!!!!


…
Jumping to Green:

Lanturn L53 @ Leftovers
Parasect L52 @ Leftovers
Typhlosion L52 @ Charcoal
(same attacks)
…

Wait, who's Green?

Re: Team size for playing through the game

Posted by: IceFlame
Date: 2016-09-13 05:44:18

Wait, who's Green?

Blue. Who remains Gary/Shigeru in my head anyway.


Hey, someone else that uses a grass-type starter! I usually pick Bulbasaur in Gen 1 simply because it tends to have better growth rates, even if its stats are lower at start. (One run I got a Bulbasaur to end up with <450 Special because the RNG happened to roll a really high growth rate.)

I'd still like to know what "rolling a growth rate" is!