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Hiya! I'm Jeff! owo

Posted by: JeffCharizardFlame
Date: 2013-03-24 13:28:29
Why hello there everybody. Thought I'd join this site since it looks promising and I love messing with Gen 1 and 2 Pokemon games. But anyways, hi! My name's Jeffrey. But you can call me Jeff! owo I'm 15 years old, and I'm currently a freshman in high school. I like to use the computer, play countless video games, including Mega Man and of course Pokemon. I also specialize in gameshark/game genie codes for the first two generations.

Re: Hiya! I'm Jeff! owo

Posted by: OwnageMuch
Date: 2013-03-24 18:29:55
Hi Jeff! You've come to the right place!

Re: Hiya! I'm Jeff! owo

Posted by: Tsukuu
Date: 2013-03-24 21:40:39
Heya Jeff, welcome. =w=

Re: Hiya! I'm Jeff! owo

Posted by: SCared_Fir3
Date: 2013-03-28 09:39:39
hiii jeff. welcome to the insanity that is GCLF.

Re: Hiya! I'm Jeff! owo

Posted by: JeffCharizardFlame
Date: 2013-03-29 06:51:27
lol scf3. lD anyways, I've got new info on the pokemon red/blue/yellow party pokemon type codes. Recently I found the digits out just by trial and error. Should I add them to the gameshark page or just post them here to be added by someone else?

Re: Hiya! I'm Jeff! owo

Posted by: Tsukuu
Date: 2013-03-29 11:17:09
That isn't listed yet? Sure I guess. I did that long ago to japanese Red/Green. But instead of trial and error, I just edited the pokémon into someone with the type I was looking for.

Re: Hiya! I'm Jeff! owo

Posted by: JeffCharizardFlame
Date: 2013-03-29 13:12:54
Alright, Here they are, all the sets of them. Keep in mind that the Pokemon digits are different than the type digits, the type different than the move digits, and so forth. If you want to put them on the wiki page, that's fine.

Pokémon Modifier Quantity Digits

01 - Rhydon
02 - Kangaskhan
03 - Nidoran(m)
04 - Clefairy
05 - Spearow
06 - Voltorb
07 - Nidoking
08 - Slobro
09 - Ivysaur
0A - Exeggutor
0B - Lickitung
0C - Exeggcute
0D - Grimer
0E - Gengar
0F - Nidoran(f)
10 - Nidoqueen
11 - Cubone
12 - Rhyhorn
13 - Lapras
14 - Arcanine
15 - Mew
16 - Gyarados
17 - Shellder
18 - Tentacool
19 - Gastly
1A - Scyther
1B - Staryu
1C - Blastoise
1D - Pinsir
1E - Tangela
1F - Missingno.
20 - Missingno.
21 - Growlithe
22 - Onix
23 - Frearow
24 - Pidgey
25 - Slowpoke
26 - Kadabra
27 - Graveler
28 - Chansey
29 - Machoke
2A - Mr. Mime
2B - Hitmonlee
2C - Hitmonchan
2D - Arbok
2E - Parasect
2F - Psyduck
30 - Drowzee
31 - Golem
32 - Missingno.
33 - Magmar
34 - Mankey
35 - Electabuzz
36 - Magneton
37 - Koffing
38 - Missingno.
39 - Missingno.
3A - Seel
3B - Diglett
3C - Tauros
3D - Missingno.
3E - Missingno.
3F - Missingno.
40 - Farfetch'd
41 - Venonat
42 - Dragonite
43 - Missingno.
44 - Missingno.
45 - Missingno.
46 - Doduo
47 - Poliwag
48 - Jynx
49 - Moltres
4A - Articuro
4B - Zapdos
4C - Ditto
4D - Meowth
4E - Krabby
4F - Missingno.
50 - Missingno.
51 - Missingno.
52 - Vulpix
53 - Ninetails
54 - Pikachu
55 - Raichu
56 - Missingno.
57 - Missingno.
58 - Dratini
59 - Dragonair
5A- Kabuto
5B - Kabutops
5C - Horsea
5D - Seadra
5E - Missingno.
5F - Missingno.
60 - Sandshrew
61 - Sandslash
62 - Omanite
63 - Omastar
64 - Jigglypuff
65 - Wigglytuff
66 - Eevee
67 - Flareon
68 - Jolteon
69 - Vaporeon
6A - Machop
6B - Zubat
6C - Ekans
6D - Paras
6E - Poliwhirl
6F - Poliwrath
70 - Weedle
71 - Kakuna
72 - Beedrill
73 - Missingno.
74 - Dodrio
75 - Primeape
76 - Dugtrio
77 - Venomoth
78 - Dewgong
79 - Missingno.
7A - Missingno.
7B - Caterpie
7C - Metapod
7D - Butterfree
7E - Machamp
7F - Missingno.
80 - Goldduck
81 - Hypno
82 - Golbat
83 - Mewtwo
84 - Snorlax
85 - Magikarp
86 - Missingno.
87 - Missingno.
88 - Muk
8A - Kingler
8B - Cloyster
8C - Missingno.
8D - Electrode
8E - Clefable
8F - Weezing
90 - Persian
91 - Marowak
92 - Missingno.
93 - Haunter
94 - Abra
95 - Alakazam
96 - Pidgeotto
97 - Pidgeot
98 - Starmie
99 - Bulbasaur
9A - Venusaur
9B - Tentacruel
9C - Missingno.
9D - Goldeen
9E - Seaking
9F - Missingno.
A0 - Missingno.
A1 - Missingno.
A2 - Missingno.
A3 - Ponyta
A4 - Rapidash
A5 - Rattata
A6 - Raticate
A7 - Nindorino
A8 - Nindorina
A9 - Geodude
AA - Porygon
AB - Aerodactyl
AC - Missingno.
AD - Magnemite
AE - Missingno.
AF - Missingno.
B0 - Charmander
B1 - Squirtle
B2 - Charmeleon
B3 - Wartortle
B4 - Charizard
B5 - Missingno.
B6 - Missingno.
B7 - Missingno.
B8 - Missingno.
B9 - Oddish
BA - Gloom
BB - Vileplume
BC - Bellsprout
BD - Weepinbell
BE - Victreebell

I find it odd that the pokemon's digits are not in pokedex order. My guess is that they were listed by the order of when each pokemon was made.

Skill Modifier Quantity Digits

00 - Nothing
01 - Pound
02 - Karate Chop
03 - Double Slap
04 - Comet Punch
05 - Mega Punch
06 - Pay Day
07 - Fire Punch
08 - Ice Punch
09 - Thunder Punch
0A - Scratch
0B - Vice Grip
0C - Guillotine
0D - Razor Wind
0E - Swords Dance
0F - Cut
10 - Gust
11 - Wing Attack
12 - Whirl Wind
13 - Fly
14 - Bird
15 - Slam
16 - Vine Whip
17 - Stomp
18 - Double Kick
19 - Mega Kick
1A - Jump Kick
1B - Rolling Kick
1C - Sand Attack
1D - Head Butt
1E - Horn Attack
1F - Fury Attack
20 - Horn Drill
21 - Tackle
22 - Body Slam
23 - Wrap
24 - Take Down
25 - Thrash
26 - Double Edge
27 - Tail Whip
28 - Poison Sting
29 - Twin Edle
2A - Pin Missile
2B - Leer
2C - Bite
2D - Growl
2E - Roar
2F - Sing
30 - Supersonic
31 - Sonicboom
32 - Disable
33 - Acid
34 - Ember
35 - Flamethrower
36 - Mist
37 - Water Gun
38 - Hydro Pump
39 - Surf
3A - Ice Beam
3B - Blizzard
3C - Psybeam
3D - Bubblebeam
3E - Aurora Beam
3F - Hyper Beam
40 - Peck
41 - Drill Peck
42 - Submission
43 - Low Kick
44 - Counter
45 - Seismic Toss
46 - Strength
47 - Absorb
48 - Mega Drain
49 - Leech Seed
4A - Growth
4B - Razor Leaf
4C - Solar Beam
4D - Poisonpowder
4E - Stun Spore
4F - Sleep Powder
50 - Petal Dance
51 - String Shot
52 - Dragon Rage
53 - Fire Spin
54 - Thundershock
55 - Thunderbolt
56 - Thunder Wave
57 - Thunder
58 - Rock Throw
59 - Earthquake
5A - Fissure
5B - Dig
5C - Toxic
5D - Confusion
5E - Psychic
5F - Hypnosis
60 - Meditate
61 - Agility
62 - Quick Attack
63 - Rage
64 - Teleport
65 - Night Shade
66 - Mimic
67 - Screech
68 - Double Team
69 - Recover
6A - Harden
6B - Minimize
6C - Smoke Screen
6D - Confuse Ray
6E - Withdraw
6F - Defense Curl
70 - Barrier
71 - Light Screen
72 - Haze
73 - Reflect
74 - Focus Energy
75 - Hide
76 - Metronome
77 - Mirror Move
78 - Selfdestruct
79 - Egg Bomb
7A - Lick
7B - Smog
7C - Sludge
7D - Bone Club
7E - Fire Blast
7F - Waterfall
80 - Clamp
81 - Swift
82 - Skull Bash
83 - Spike Cannon
84 - Constrict
85 - Amnesia
86 - Kinesis
87 - Softboiled
88 - Hi Jump Kick
89 - Glare
8A - Dream Eater
8B - Poison Gas
8C - Barrage
8D - Leech Life
8E - Lovely Kiss
8F - Sky Attack
90 - Transform
91 - Bubble
92 - Dizzy Punch
93 - Spore
94 - Flash
95 - Psywave
96 - Splash
97 - Acid Armor
98 - Crabhammer
99 - Exposion
9A - Fury Swipes
9B - Bonemerang
9C - Rest
9D - Rock Slide
9E - Hyper Fang
9F - Sharpen
A0 - Conversion
A1 - Tri Attack
A2 - Super Fang
A3 - Slash
A4 - Substitute
A5 - Struggle

I am not sure if the code for changing the pokemon's moveset is on the wiki page already, but I'm going to add it just in case. The moveset codes for all 6 party pokemon are as follows-

1st position:

Skill 1 Modifier 01??73D1 
Skill 2 Modifier 01??74D1 
Skill 3 Modifier 01??75D1 
Skill 4 Modifier 01??76D1

2nd Position:

Skill 1 Modifier 01??9FD1 
Skill 2 Modifier 01??A0D1 
Skill 3 Modifier 01??A1D1 
Skill 4 Modifier 01??A2D1

3rd Position:

Skill 1 Modifier 01??CBD1 
Skill 2 Modifier 01??CCD1 
Skill 3 Modifier 01??CDD1 
Skill 4 Modifier 01??CED1

4th Position:

Skill 1 Modifier 01??F7D1 
Skill 2 Modifier 01??F8D1 
Skill 3 Modifier 01??F9D1 
Skill 4 Modifier 01??FAD1

5th Position:

Skill 1 Modifier 01??23D2 
Skill 2 Modifier 01??24D2 
Skill 3 Modifier 01??25D2 
Skill 4 Modifier 01??26D2

6th Position:

Skill 1 Modifier 01??4FD2 
Skill 2 Modifier 01??50D2 
Skill 3 Modifier 01??51D2 
Skill 4 Modifier 01??52D2

and finally, the type digits.


Normal    00
Fire      14
Water      15
Electric  17
Grass      16
Ice        19
Fighting  01
Poison    03
Ground    04
Flying    02
Psychic    18
Bug        07
Rock      05
Ghost      08
Dragon    1A

The type modifier codes are, with the question marks denoting where the type digits go:

    Type1      Type2
01??70D1  01??71D1  (1st position)
01??9CD1  01??9DD1  (2nd position)
01??C8D1  01??C9D1  (3rd position)
01??F4D1  01??F5D1  (4th position)
01??20D2  01??21D2  (5th position)
01??4CD2  01??4DD2  (6th position)

Re: Hiya! I'm Jeff! owo

Posted by: OwnageMuch
Date: 2013-03-29 17:21:02
I hate to rain on your parade, but:
http://glitchcity.info/biglist.htm
Also, I'm pretty sure they were in the order that the Pokémon were created. There were originally 190 planned, as discovered by a Smogon user when he interviewed a developer (sorry for ambiguity but I don't have time to go searching at the moment), but some were removed which are where the Missingno. variants are stored.

Re: Hiya! I'm Jeff! owo

Posted by: JeffCharizardFlame
Date: 2013-03-29 17:38:18
eh, oh well. Doesn't bother me. lD

Also, I'm pretty sure they were in the order that the Pokémon were created. There were originally 190 planned, as discovered by a Smogon user when he interviewed a developer (sorry for ambiguity but I don't have time to go searching at the moment), but some were removed which are where the Missingno. variants are stored.


First response: It's alright. lD
Second: I don't get it, I thought the Missingno. variants were error handlers. Except for the three fossil variants and the ghost form, which all four of those actually are used. Well, the ghost anyways. It shows that sprite when you're in the Lavender Tower without the Silph Scope. Any ghost you run into will have that pic. As for the three fossil pokemon, I'd say that they planned on making some sort of sprite cutscene for the revival of the fossil pokemon, but then they just used the overworld sprites. But that's my reasoning,

Re: Hiya! I'm Jeff! owo

Posted by: GARYM9
Date: 2013-03-29 18:10:53
The wiki has an incomplete port of these:

http://glitchcity.info/pokemonrbycodes.txt
http://glitchcity.info/pokemongscodes.txt
http://glitchcity.info/pokemonccodes.txt

Idk why these aren't linked to in the articles, I would edit it but I can't approve any edits I make because of wiki bugs.

Re: Hiya! I'm Jeff! owo

Posted by: Tsukuu
Date: 2013-03-29 18:51:05

eh, oh well. Doesn't bother me. lD

Also, I'm pretty sure they were in the order that the Pokémon were created. There were originally 190 planned, as discovered by a Smogon user when he interviewed a developer (sorry for ambiguity but I don't have time to go searching at the moment), but some were removed which are where the Missingno. variants are stored.


First response: It's alright. lD
Second: I don't get it, I thought the Missingno. variants were error handlers. Except for the three fossil variants and the ghost form, which all four of those actually are used. Well, the ghost anyways. It shows that sprite when you're in the Lavender Tower without the Silph Scope. Any ghost you run into will have that pic. As for the three fossil pokemon, I'd say that they planned on making some sort of sprite cutscene for the revival of the fossil pokemon, but then they just used the overworld sprites. But that's my reasoning,


The 190 pokés thing does make sense since there are 39 Missingnos. As for why there's the fossil/ghost variations, I have no idea.

(Sorta offtopic, but wow, I didn't know the Bird-type exists in Gen 2 as well. That removes the possibility of it having been related to the "Bird Keeper" trainer class since there's the Cooltrainer and Pokémaniac-types)

Re: Hiya! I'm Jeff! owo

Posted by: Bert
Date: 2013-03-29 19:09:52
Hai Jeff, welcome to our special little Hell.

[img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120510221731/unanything/images/8/80/Don't_forget_you're_here_forever.jpg[/img]

Re: Hiya! I'm Jeff! owo

Posted by: JeffCharizardFlame
Date: 2013-03-29 20:28:22
Lol bert. lD

Anyways, yeah, I saw those already. Should those codes be added to the code dex?

Re: Hiya! I'm Jeff! owo

Posted by: Zowayix
Date: 2013-03-30 00:31:16
One day I'm going to run out of image macros to use on the new kids. I might even have already used this one.
Anyways, you can have… this.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/T4zM0cM.jpg[/img]

Re: Hiya! I'm Jeff! owo

Posted by: Torchickens
Date: 2013-03-30 07:28:34

eh, oh well. Doesn't bother me. lD

Also, I'm pretty sure they were in the order that the Pokémon were created. There were originally 190 planned, as discovered by a Smogon user when he interviewed a developer (sorry for ambiguity but I don't have time to go searching at the moment), but some were removed which are where the Missingno. variants are stored.


First response: It's alright. lD
Second: I don't get it, I thought the Missingno. variants were error handlers. Except for the three fossil variants and the ghost form, which all four of those actually are used. Well, the ghost anyways. It shows that sprite when you're in the Lavender Tower without the Silph Scope. Any ghost you run into will have that pic. As for the three fossil pokemon, I'd say that they planned on making some sort of sprite cutscene for the revival of the fossil pokemon, but then they just used the overworld sprites. But that's my reasoning,


Hi Jeff. Welcome to the forums.

The fossil sprites are used in Pewter Museum. You need to press the 'A' button on an exhibit to see their sprite and some text. I suspect that the game probably loads Pokémon 182 (B6h) and 183 (B7h); the Kabutops and Aerodactyl fossil Missingno. in order for them to appear.

[img]http://i.minus.com/jbTXgLninEpyB.png[/img]

'Missingno.' is only an error handler in a few ways.

1) It's name was programmed into the game and is used whenever those 39 invalid Pokémon appear.
2) It has special data telling it not to evolve or learn any level up moves.
3) In Red/Green/Blue/Pikachu, it has placeholder Pokédex data; 1m and 10kg. In Japanese Blue and Pocket Monsters Pikachu, it is the '???' species and has the Pokédex entry " くち" (Comment to be written).

So in other words, it isn't an error handler for invalid Pokémon in general. Most invalid Pokémon have invalid names derived from unrelated data in the ROM.

Whether the Missingno. actually were unused Pokémon is not known, but since Shigeki Morimoto confirmed there were 190 Pokémon and there are 39 Missingno., it seems much more likely. Here are a few points suggesting they were invalid Pokémon that were deleted/not defined yet.

1) The Missingno. are permeated between the index numbers of real Pokémon.
2) Though most of the Missingno. have base 0 (Nidoran), pitch 0 and length 256 cries, there are nine that have unique cries. (More information here). Coincidentally or not, one of these Missingno. has Dragonair's base cry (5Eh), and another Missingno. has a slowed down version of Poliwag's cry (51h). These correspond with some pre-release 'Nyosuka' and Dragonair designs.
3) Zog from Smogon interviewed Shigeki Morimoto; one of the people responsible for designing the Pokémon, and he said "Yes; we decided to save the rest of the designs for later". Also, according to an interview taken from the Game Staff List Assocation Japan (translation by GlitterBerri here). The staff designed more than 200 Pokémon for the first games, then 'whittled them down to 150'.