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Re: Black Hole Machine

Posted by: Newo
Date: 2008-09-10 11:14:31


There won't be a black hole to begin with.  Besides, it can't suck in anything because of it's very small size.

The scientists say that it could create a particle called a 'stranglet', basically what has infinite gravity and sucks everything in.


To make ANYTHING like that you would need a SUPERDUPERAWESOME?BERLARGETURDMEGANOWTOYOUCAN'TTOUCHMYLAWNMOWERDUDESANDDUDESSESSSERIESOFTUBES Hadron collider.

Besides, larger and more powerful collisions like what the LHC will make happen a lot in our OWN ATMOSPHERE.


That's not exactly right, no matter how small or big black holes are, they have infinite gravity. BUT! The one that they create (if it evens happens :P) will be so small that it will evaporate into itself… Sounds a little confusing, but yes the first thing it will suck up is itself

Not infinite, just a lot anything with an infinite amount of force would destroy the universe timelessly.
Anyway, a black hole only can suck in the same amount of matter that created it, (As matter counteracts antimatter) and considering that most black holes are caused by stars collapsing (usually stars about 3 times as dense as the Sun) and we are talking about an object that makes up an atom.

What about this for small:
Aproximate normal black hole: 6?10^30 kg
6000000000000000000000000000000 kg
Aproximate proton sized black hole: 2?10^−27 kg
0.000000000000000000000000002 kg

Size of bigger of a normal black hole than our one: 3x10^57 times
3,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times

Also consider this, the force required to make a star collapse isn't availible in our solar system, let alone something as small as this experiment.

Also aren't Strangelets supposed to be just particles that contain incorrect quarks. The theroy is that if you had a lot they would be dangerous because then they would have to get rid of there strangeness but it would make both particles strange (which theoretically then may spread like radiation). They don't have infinite gravity. And they don't actually know they exist anyway.

Re: Black Hole Machine

Posted by: GARYM9
Date: 2008-09-10 14:13:07



There won't be a black hole to begin with.  Besides, it can't suck in anything because of it's very small size.

The scientists say that it could create a particle called a 'stranglet', basically what has infinite gravity and sucks everything in.


To make ANYTHING like that you would need a SUPERDUPERAWESOME?BERLARGETURDMEGANOWTOYOUCAN'TTOUCHMYLAWNMOWERDUDESANDDUDESSESSSERIESOFTUBES Hadron collider.

Besides, larger and more powerful collisions like what the LHC will make happen a lot in our OWN ATMOSPHERE.


That's not exactly right, no matter how small or big black holes are, they have infinite gravity. BUT! The one that they create (if it evens happens :P) will be so small that it will evaporate into itself… Sounds a little confusing, but yes the first thing it will suck up is itself

Not infinite, just a lot anything with an infinite amount of force would destroy the universe timelessly.
Anyway, a black hole only can suck in the same amount of matter that created it, (As matter counteracts antimatter) and considering that most black holes are caused by stars collapsing (usually stars about 3 times as dense as the Sun) and we are talking about an object that makes up an atom.

What about this for small:
Aproximate normal black hole: 6?10^30 kg
6000000000000000000000000000000 kg
Aproximate proton sized black hole: 2?10^−27 kg
0.000000000000000000000000002 kg

Size of bigger of a normal black hole than our one: 3x10^57 times
3,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times

Also consider this, the force required to make a star collapse isn't availible in our solar system, let alone something as small as this experiment.

Also aren't Strangelets supposed to be just particles that contain incorrect quarks. The theroy is that if you had a lot they would be dangerous because then they would have to get rid of there strangeness but it would make both particles strange (which theoretically then may spread like radiation). They don't have infinite gravity. And they don't actually know they exist anyway.



There won't be a black hole to begin with.  Besides, it can't suck in anything because of it's very small size.

The scientists say that it could create a particle called a 'stranglet', basically what has infinite gravity and sucks everything in.


To make ANYTHING like that you would need a SUPERDUPERAWESOME?BERLARGETURDMEGANOWTOYOUCAN'TTOUCHMYLAWNMOWERDUDESANDDUDESSESSSERIESOFTUBES Hadron collider.

Besides, larger and more powerful collisions like what the LHC will make happen a lot in our OWN ATMOSPHERE.


That's not exactly right, no matter how small or big black holes are, they have infinite gravity. BUT! The one that they create (if it evens happens :P) will be so small that it will evaporate into itself… Sounds a little confusing, but yes the first thing it will suck up is itself

Not infinite, just a lot anything with an infinite amount of force would destroy the universe timelessly.
Anyway, a black hole only can suck in the same amount of matter that created it, (As matter counteracts antimatter) and considering that most black holes are caused by stars collapsing (usually stars about 3 times as dense as the Sun) and we are talking about an object that makes up an atom.

What about this for small:
Aproximate normal black hole: 6?10^30 kg
6000000000000000000000000000000 kg
Aproximate proton sized black hole: 2?10^−27 kg
0.000000000000000000000000002 kg

Size of bigger of a normal black hole than our one: 3x10^57 times
3,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times

Also consider this, the force required to make a star collapse isn't availible in our solar system, let alone something as small as this experiment.

Also aren't Strangelets supposed to be just particles that contain incorrect quarks. The theroy is that if you had a lot they would be dangerous because then they would have to get rid of there strangeness but it would make both particles strange (which theoretically then may spread like radiation). They don't have infinite gravity. And they don't actually know they exist anyway.


Correct. Also during this experiment all kinds of particals will split from the protons and/or DISAPPEAR into another dimension so it creates even less mass for the blackhole to form with so even if it forms it still won't suck up anything, it'll just disapate farely fast.

Re: Black Hole Machine

Posted by: glitchuntress
Date: 2008-09-10 15:33:52
so any ways, what's the word on the machine?
what happened when they turned it on?

Re: Black Hole Machine

Posted by: GARYM9
Date: 2008-09-10 15:43:41

so any ways, what's the word on the machine?
what happened when they turned it on?


Everything works perfectly, they won't be doing collisions until the 21st of October.

Re: Black Hole Machine

Posted by: :56 ERROR
Date: 2008-09-10 21:34:51
Well yes, obviously now it's not going to affect us at all (the black hole).
Personally, I find it very interesting that humans have finally actually created a machine that can create even an extremely small black hole. Considering black holes are the most destructive things in the universe (well, except supernovas and quasars). We can say that we have the ability, although it takes us a very long time, to create machines that create universally destructive things. (that was a bit of exaggeration though  :P)

Re: Black Hole Machine

Posted by: Bent`
Date: 2008-09-10 21:58:04

Considering black holes are the most destructive things in the universe (well, except supernovas and quasars).

And those danged liberals are saying it's nukes. Ha!

Re: Black Hole Machine

Posted by: :56 ERROR
Date: 2008-09-10 22:15:31
:P Haha. Who the hell said nukes were the most destructive things in this universe!? They obviously have never had space science.

Re: Black Hole Machine

Posted by: Hydrall
Date: 2008-09-11 14:08:39
Or much of a brain, anyhow. hurricanes can do more damage then a nuke.

Re: Black Hole Machine

Posted by: Wild MissingNo. appeared
Date: 2008-09-11 14:29:21
Yeah, but nukes can wipe a town/city/country off the map.

Re: Black Hole Machine

Posted by: MissingNo
Date: 2008-09-11 14:32:52
[IMG]http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/9890/ohptoftimemeasured13sepjy2.png[/img]

This was a triumph…
I'm making a note here… HUGE SUCCESS
It's hard to overstate my satisfaction…

CERN laboratories…
We do what we must because we can.
For the good of all of us,
Except the ones who are dead.
But there?s no sense crying over every mistake,
You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.
And the science gets done and you make a particle
For the people who are still alive…

/cake