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Admins Suck - Page 54

Re: Admins Suck

Posted by: Wa
Date: 2009-12-23 21:41:58
[img]http://closetenvironmentalist.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/ya-rly.jpg[/img]

Re: Admins Suck

Posted by: Chaos
Date: 2009-12-24 00:47:54
[img]http://www.cylegage.com/lulz/nowai.jpg[/img]

Re: Admins Suck

Posted by: fivex
Date: 2009-12-24 01:08:58

[img]http://www.cylegage.com/lulz/nowai.jpg[/img]
[img]http://closetenvironmentalist.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/ya-rly.jpg[/img]

Re: Admins Suck

Posted by: Chaos
Date: 2009-12-24 01:27:39


[img]http://www.cylegage.com/lulz/nowai.jpg[/img]
[img]http://closetenvironmentalist.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/ya-rly.jpg[/img]

Yeah…that doesn't work.
It's
"O RLY?"
"YA RLY"
"NO WAI!!"
and nothing else after that…

Re: Admins Suck

Posted by: Zowayix
Date: 2009-12-24 06:32:40
ORLY? I hardly even knew her!

Re: Admins Suck

Posted by: Phrawger
Date: 2009-12-24 09:35:51

ORLY? I hardly even knew her!


Twelve internets for you sir

Re: Admins Suck

Posted by: Ketsuban
Date: 2009-12-24 10:07:35
42 internets, sir, for you have reply 800 (and Opera 10).

Re: Admins Suck

Posted by: GARYM9
Date: 2009-12-24 10:32:15
He has opera 10.10 actually.

Re: Admins Suck

Posted by: Ketsuban
Date: 2009-12-24 10:43:34
So do I.  For some reason, tho', it shows itself as 9.80. :S

In other news, the insanely buggy and unstable (but cool-looking, especially if you have Windows 7 or Mac OS X.6) Opera 10.50 pre-α is out.

Re: Admins Suck

Posted by: Wa
Date: 2009-12-24 11:52:53


[img]http://www.cylegage.com/lulz/nowai.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m85/ShadowKail/Owl%20expressions/Wai1.gif[/img]

Fixed :)


Incidentally, we currently have about 29 guests.

Re: Admins Suck

Posted by: Abwayax
Date: 2009-12-24 12:00:34

So do I.  For some reason, tho', it shows itself as 9.80. :S

TIME FOR A LECTURE OF THE INTERNETS!

The reason Opera 10.x shows itself as Opera 9.80 is explained in detail on some Opera guy's blog, but I'll summarize it: All browsers send something called a "User Agent string" to servers, this is how servers know what kind of client you use to access them. Amateur webmasters use something called "sniffing" to try to tell a browser version from a user agent string. In the early days of the web, new browsers would come out with new features and these webmasters had to limit access to certain versions of certain browsers so as to avoid these features breaking. For example, Netscape (code-named Mozilla) introduced JavaScript and frames. Websites would look for the "Mozilla" in the "User Agent string" to get an idea if the browser supports Netscape technologies. As other browsers came to support these things, they had to include "Mozilla" in their UA string to "trick" the website. Newer browsers have had to "trick" websites that do browser sniffing. As an extreme example, here is the UA string of Chrome on my system (bold showing all of the browsers it pretends to be):
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US) AppleWebKit/532.2 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/4.0.220.1 Safari/532.2

Mozilla in this context refers to Netscape (it also now refers to Firefox and Seamonkey). KHTML refers to Konqueror, from which the AppleWebKit engine was derived. Gecko again refers to Firefox, etc (for websites that sniff out the Gecko engine). Safari refers to Apple's browser, which also uses the AppleWebKit engine and which Chrome shares code with.

As for why this concerns Opera: Opera, as an underdog of the browser industry, has had to get by browser sniffing many times. Previous versions masked themselves as Internet Explorer (which, coincidentally, also identifies as Mozilla) and newer versions have the option to mask as Firefox or IE. Opera tried sending a user-agent string of Opera/10.00 in an alpha build, but they found that sites detected this as Opera/1 (because no browser had ever hit 10 before Opera) and rejected it. So, for a compromise, they found that they would identify as 9.80 and add an extra item in the string that gives the true version:
Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) Presto/2.2.15 Version/10.00

Presto is the rendering engine - current stable builds have 2.2 and the new 10.5 build has 2.5. A note about browser rendering engines - Presto refers to Opera's engine and is not used in any other browser. Gecko refers to the Mozilla Firefox engine, which is open source and has been used in many other projects (see Gecko is Gecko). KHTML is Konqueror's engine, which is also open source and has been re-used widely. WebKit (also open source) is Apple's fork of KHTML which is used in Safari and Chrome. And, last (and definitely least) is Trident, which is the IE engine. Trident is not open source, but is decoupled from the IE application itself and can be embedded in an application.

I tried out 10.5 on my Windows install the other day. The new JavaScript engine will give Chrome a run for its money. I can't wait for the Unix build.

Edit: Opera refers to this version both as 10.50 and 10.5. I prefer 10.50 because it places it after 10.10 and 10.20, but their news release calls it 10.5. :/

Re: Admins Suck

Posted by: Missing? NO!
Date: 2009-12-24 23:39:36
*plugs ears* Lectures.

Re: Admins Suck

Posted by: Angrysmurf
Date: 2009-12-25 10:48:17
MERRY CHRISTMAS GUYZ!

I GOT A PS3! W00T!

Re: Admins Suck

Posted by: GARYM9
Date: 2009-12-27 00:09:34
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Re: Admins Suck

Posted by: Zowayix
Date: 2015-12-27 08:28:38
Apparently I can't post in this



#yolo