Re: Official 1st Gen (Red/Blue and Yellow) Glitch Discussion
Posted by: SatoMew
Date: 2015-02-13 09:41:20
It's explained in the post by luckytyphlosion at the top of the page with your post
Oops! I missed that, thanks.
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It's explained in the post by luckytyphlosion at the top of the page with your post
I haven't been here for a while, and now I see there is a new flavor of Trainer-Fly, the "Viridian Forest wild encounter method". Could anyone explain to me why it works? Does it work on any other trainers in the game, and why is poisoning necessary? Thanks in advance.
This trick may also be called "death-warp" and was apparently found by Vimgur. Thomaz documented it in 2011 on [url=http://a popular Youtube video.
The name I gave, "Viridian Forest wild encounter method" is not very good in hindsight, because you can do the glitch with other Trainers as well.
Thomaz suggested using a Bug Catcher on Route 6 for death-warping for Red/Blue any% no save corruption. That death-warp has been used in a very recent TAS.
Details:
You have to get into a wild Pokémon battle within a Trainer's vision, example:
[img]http://i5.minus.com/ib0gfzPJ8VJgUW.png[/img]
Then lose the wild Pokémon battle before being spotted. This will make the "!" appear and encounter music to play after the blacked out music, and you will warp elsewhere.
Your last Pokémon being poisoned is not required, but poison can make it easier to lose battles against weak Pokémon. Additionally, poison (or possibly Self-Destruct etc.?) may be needed to lose a battle against a Kakuna or Metapod that can only use Harden (and infinitely due to enemy Pokémon effectively having unlimited PP).
Differences between death-warp and Trainer-Fly:
1. Ability to open the start menu straight away in death warp. In Trainer-Fly you need to beat another Trainer (on another route since you may not be able to battle anyone on the original route and I don't know if that would work anyway) or save by changing boxes and resetting the game to get the ability to open the start menu again.
2. Returning to the route (and cave?) straight away after a death warp will load the Trainer you escaped from. This is unlike Trainer-Fly where seemingly nothing happens if via you return to the place, unless you defeat a Trainer in that place by changing boxes and resetting first, which can activate the walking lag glitch. The Trainer may have a glitched speech for when you defeat them.
3. In death warping you don't need to encounter another Trainer to activate the Special stat encounter mechanic. So you could just death-warp, encounter a wild Pokémon without having to encounter a Trainer, and get the Special stat encounter when you return to the route.
^ Behaviour from Red/Blue. May be different in Yellow.
Other than those differences, the death warp glitch works just like Trainer-Fly (with the level=attack stage species=Special stat relationship) provided you encounter a Pokémon or another Trainer after death-warping.
This trick can be used to get level 100 Pokémon before Brock by encountering a level 1 medium-slow Pokémon first, video (like for Ivysaur; ID:09, you can encounter a level 4 Pidgey with a Special DV of 15 on Route 2 according to the video). This trick is not necessary for getting level 100 Pokémon before Brock quickly w/o save corruption in Yellow; there is a long-range Trainer in Viridian Forest you can Escape Rope from in Yellow (unlike Red/Blue where there are none).
Death-warping does not use up the Trainer so you can do it as many times as you like.
You also have the ability to do the Special stat encounter part of Trainer-Fly without using up both the Trainer you escape from and the Trainer you battled if you:
*Lose to the Trainer you actually battle.
*After Trainer-Flying, change boxes, beat the Elite Four and after the game resets encounter a wild Pokémon.
Hope that helps. If you have any questions let me know.
Speaking of Viridian Forest, is the behavior described in Werster's video documented? If so, is it intentional or is it another glitch?
I'll have to try this in the Italian version, where surfing on beaches correctly gives water Pokémon
I think both Italian and Spanish versions determine both encounter and encounter type by the bottom-right tile.
Japanese (totally unconfirmed):
Bottom-left tile: encounter rate to use (grass or water list's)
Bottom-right tile: encounter type (grass or water); enable encounters if encounter table exists in memory
There is something deeper to the grass surfing glitch (which occurs in at least the Spanish Red) because the Pokémon you find can be altered by battling a Trainer before, and the Pokémon you find are not determined by the normal grass Pokémon list that is updated every time you visit a new route with grass encounters.
Not sure if someone found this before, but I just discovered a glitch that will work only in GB mode.
Needs someone to confirm it in real monochrome Game Boy though…
Not sure if someone found this before, but I just discovered a glitch that will work only in GB mode.
Needs someone to confirm it in real monochrome Game Boy though…
Not sure if someone found this before, but I just discovered a glitch that will work only in GB mode.
Needs someone to confirm it in real monochrome Game Boy though…
The same thing happens on a GBC or GBAas would be expected; since the game doesnt have any GBC features, it runs in GB mode with a color palette set by the CGB bootstrap ROM. I wonder why this is different on an SGB?
I think I might have found a new glitch. It's a lot like the 0 error glitch, but there are some differences, and it happens on a different route. I looked all over the internet and couldn't find any mention of it. Does anyone know where the right place is to report a glitch, or if this is the place, how to make it more well known?